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White mouth on clown beauty angel

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Nedim, Oct 10, 2011.

  1. Nedim

    Nedim Inactive User

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    Hey guys, I bought a clown beauty at the LFS
    a few days ago, he hasn't been eating since i bought him (sea weed,
    frozen, pellet, flake) this morning i saw him and it looks like he has a
    white fungus on his mouth. I called the LFS
    and they said they had some chemical that i can put into the tank and
    it would be gone in a couple weeks. Should i trust him? what should i
    do? get rid of the fish before it infects the others? thanks!
     
  2. AJ

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    I would get it out of there and get it into a QT tank ASAP. That should have been the first stop anyway. Just hope and pray that your other fish don't get the same thing.

    --AJ
     
  3. Nedim

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    I will do that, and do a water change today
     
  4. Guest

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    use ich-x i love this stuff i treat my reeftank with it when my fish look down its reefsafe wont hurt coral or inverts this chemical treat's diffrents disease
     
  5. Nedim

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    I will try that too. I was gonna get the fish out of the tank today, but it was impossible to catch him
     
  6. Guest

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    when u move a sick fish a lot of time you put more stress on that fish so its better to leave it in the tank and treat it just in case others have it . i would allso make up some food with garlic in it will help kill parasites allways take new fish and qt them for 2-4 weeks
     
  7. Nedim

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    I have some garlicx and mixing it with rod's food and flakes
     
  8. Guest

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    perfect
     
  9. AJ

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    Be careful with things that say they are reef safe...they frequently are not and cause issues. When you have hundreds or thousands of dollars of corals in your tank, it's a risk that most of us prefer not to take. One thing dying in your tank can start a chain reaction that results in a tank crash. Good luck...

    --AJ
     
  10. FishandFire

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    It is true that moving a fish can cause more stress for the fish. But you have to decide yourself if that stress and possibly losing that fish is worth the risk of leaving that fish in the tank and spreading the problem to the other fish. If it were me, I would move it.
     
  11. Guest

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    this is true but i use this stuff in all 5 of my reeftanks and not a problems and its been reef tested might make a leathers srink up a bit but will open back up in time
     
  12. areefoffaith

    areefoffaith Inactive User

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    question what is clown beauty angel?
     
  13. Nedim

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    I meant to say coral beauty. And it died last night.
     
  14. Andy The Reef Guy

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    Ich x is NOT reef safe. It is formalin and methanol at a very low concentration. So low in fact that it's hardly effective. This low concentration is how the makers tout it as a "reef safe" treatment. Formalin should be applied at a concentration of at least 80ppm in most cases and the recommended dose here is 5ml/10 gallons or 5ml/37.85 liters of a 5% concentration of formalin = 37.85L/0.25ml= 0.006 or 6ppm concentration (somebody check my math please)

    In any case it's needless to say that it hardly yields a therapeutic level of treatment. Let alone is it the right treatment for the disease condition? It might follow that formalin and methanol is an appropriate treatment if we were to suppose that the infection is not in fact a fungal agent but rather focal masses induced by microsporideans or diploid ciliated protozoans (ich). On the other hand the infection may simply be a foci of granulomas caused by lymphocystis (which may resolve itself although prophylactic antibiotics are typically used to treat secondary infections). In fact, true fungal infections are actually rather rare.

    I would isolate the fish in a receptacle of at least 30 gallons, perform daily water changes, and start a regime of non-specific immunostimulants and antibiotics (garlic and metronidazole).
     
  15. AJ

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    Yeah, what he said...  ;-)
     
  16. Andy The Reef Guy

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    you know you love it lol. I'm just saying, I will never put a broadcast antiseptic in my tank! We just don't know enough about the propounding effects on bacterioplankton downstream, and overtime. You have your known knowns, your known unknowns, and your unknown unknowns. These treatments fall into the second and third categories, and anybody claiming otherwise should be hung in the name of science! lol Oh boy, if naturalists ruled the world.....I would be sentenced by tribunal lol
     

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