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What happened to my clam? I blame an urchin.

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Shayna, Apr 18, 2013.

  1. Shayna

    Shayna Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I had a crocea clam doing great in my tank - it looked colorful and amazing. It was happy and open every day and quick to react to movement. I don't have a doubt it was in great health.
     
  2. Shayna

    Shayna Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Sorry the above went through before I was finished!

    Tankmates are a pair of clownfish, a firefish (I've since given to a friend), a tailspot blenny, a watchman/shrimp pair and a zebra catalina goby. Cleanup crew consists of sexy shrimp, peppermint and fire shrimp, and some little hermits and snails.

    I have the Coral Compulsion LED fixture hanging above.

    The clam quickly attached to a rock lower in the tank, but out of the reach of the pistol shrimp. There was no fading or stressed look about it. If something scared it, it was quick to open again. No one was picking at it that I ever noticed in the weeks I had him.

    Then I added an urchin, I think a pencil urchin. I did my research and was prepared to remove it if it started bothering my corals, but I never read they were a threat to clams! The next morning after adding the urchin something had ripped my clam off the rock it was attached to. It was ripped up really bad - the whole gland remaining stuck to the rock. My poor clam didn't survive and it was heartbreaking.

    Something that was moving around in the middle of the night tore my clam off the rock, and I believe it was the urchin, but I can't find any info to back this up. I have since moved the urchin into another tank.

    I would love to get another crocea clam someday when I find another nice one, but I can't stand to think this could happen again.

    Any thoughts? Do I have another threat?
     
  3. Pete H.

    Pete H. Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I would guess it was the pencil urchin. I added one to my 55 gallon. It was a pretty big urchin and the first thing it did was dive right into my soft corals and started chomping. So, I moved it to another side of the tank and it made a b-line right back to the coral, in the process, it even pushed a few rocks out of the way to get through. He is since been given away (the very next day in fact!)

    My guess is the urchin was just moving through and the clam was in the way. What was the relative size of the two? Urchin bigger, about the same, or clam much bigger?

    Sorry about the loss! Hope others more knowledgable can chime in.
     
  4. Shayna

    Shayna Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    The pencil urchin is about an inch in body size, but the spines make it about twice that in diameter. The clam was a little larger than the total size of the urchin, but not by much at all.

    I knew the urchin might bother the corals, so I was going to move him out if he did, but I figured I had a lot of coraline and other algaes it may prefer to eat instead. This was the last thing I expected, and I've been pretty upset about it. My clam was starting to show some nice new shell growth. I would never want this to happen to another one, but I don't want to see another clam killed. My pistol shrimp is the only other possibility I could think of, but he stays on the ground... Plus, the pistol shrimp barricades himself and the goby in at night, and this incident happened overnight.

    BTW Pete, thanks for the blue clove polyps I picked up at frag fest. They're looking great!

    Anyone clam-free want a nice purple urchin? /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif Seriously - I don't think my frogfish needs a roommate.
     
  5. Pete H.

    Pete H. Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Glad the blue cloves are doing well. Thanks for being patient with me while I got them! /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif

    Sorry again about the loss of the clam. I hope that someone else can chime in with some more expertise.
     
  6. mthomp

    mthomp Inactive User

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    Pyramid snails maybe. Known clam eaters
     
  7. Shayna

    Shayna Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Mmm I don't think that's possible. I did read about them when I was getting a clam, so I inspected it to make sure it was free of pests. If it had just been eaten, I might still suspect that, but I don't think those snails would be capable of ripping my clam off his rock and tearing off the whole byssal gland.

    At this point the only other thing that could be that strong is my pistol shrimp, but since this happened overnight when my shrimp and goby were barricaded in their den, he has a pretty good alibi. I also had the clam where the pistol shrimp doesn't really go. It was not on the floor of the tank.
     
  8. Bigkel

    Bigkel Inactive User

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    That urchin is guilty! I got a long spined urchin about 2 months ago and everything was going good until I got some Acans! I would see him go on top of them and the next day would see damage. I put a big piece of shrimp attached to a rock for my crabs and he would go onto that and eat that too! Everything I've read about them says they eat algae and detritus. I had to move him to my refugium.
     

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