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New to salt. Starting a 90g fowlr. HELP?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by pdandy, Mar 17, 2013.

  1. pdandy

    pdandy Inactive User

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    Hey all. My name is Dan and I am in the process of setting up my first saltwater tank. It is a 90 gallon reef ready with a corner overflow. Using a herbie style overflow to my 40 breeder sump. From left to right my sump is 1)drain and skimmer 2) bubble trap 3) return pump 4) roughly 14 gallon refugium fed by a T off of my return pump. This tank has been up and running freshwater for about 6 months now with no problems. And now I am ready to switch it over to salt.

    I have lots of questions and any help you can offer would be greatly appreciated. So let's begin lol.

    I have ordered a RO/DI unit from airwaterice. It is their 75gpd typhoon 5 stage system and it should be here tomorrow. I plan on running it to a 55g barrel to hold my freshwater and then transferring to a smaller 35g barrel to mix saltwater.

    Question 1) I have a small koralia pump (6-700gph) will this be sufficient to drop in the barrel to mix the salt? With a heater of course to match temp.

    I plan on using about 60lbs of sand in this tank. Not looking to have a deep sand bed. I am aiming for about 1lb of live rock per gallon in the system. .

    Question 2) how much of that rock can be dead (base rock) and how much will have to be live to seed it all? I was thinking starting out With 50-60 lbs of base rock in the display with a couple of larger live pieces then filling my refugium with some live rubble. will this be ok?

    Question 3)Lighting will be my current 48" dual bulb t5ho coralife fixture. Running a 10000k bulb and one actinic. Seeing as this will be a fowlr that should be sufficient right?

    Heating will be with my jehmco titanium heater with a controller I have now. Skimmer will be a swc 160 I am getting from a fellow member here on GIRS. Shout out to Foo!

    Question 4) Return pump is pushing about 7-800gph to the display and about 200gph through the fuge. What supplemental water pumps should I use? Would two koralia pumps be sufficient for water movement in the display? Any suggestions on size or kind?

    That about does it for setup. If I missed anything please let me know. I appreciate any help you can offer. I have questions on stocking the tank once its running but I think this thread is long enough at is. Lol. I'll leave that for another thread.
     
  2. MXC207 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Not to give ya a short answer but yes. To all. Haha. Sounds like you got it all figured out. Everything sounds good. Fowlr will be fine with a few koralias.
     
  3. pdandy

    pdandy Inactive User

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    Thanks! I've been a theoretical saltwater aquarist for a while now. Lol. Just now decided to start practicing. Now for stocking....

    After tank is cycled with live rock is that when the CUC should be added? Then slowly start adding fish?

    Thinking about these fish

    1) 3 blue/green chromis
    2) 2 occelaris clownfish
    3) small blue hippo tang
    4) yellow tang
    5) Picasso trigger
    6) wrasse (haven't decided on what kind yet)

    Any problems with this stock?
     
  4. nickbuol Here fishy, fishy, fishy...

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    There is a whole.monster size thread over at Reef Central where an expert will answer your stocking questions. He responds very quickly too. I will defer to him on your stock question. Let me see if I can dig up a link.
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  5. nickbuol Here fishy, fishy, fishy...

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    Try this link:
    http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2068112
    - Posted via Tapatalk
     
  6. pdandy

    pdandy Inactive User

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    Found it. Thanks for the heads up. I almost forgot I was a member on reef central too. Lol
     
  7. pdandy

    pdandy Inactive User

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    You're right. He does respond quick. Basically shot down my entire stock. Time to rethink it. Any suggestions? Looking for a lot of color and movement and interesting behavior. Also don't want anything that will outgrow this tank.
     
  8. mthomp

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    for a tank that size I highly recommend wrasse. well I recommend those for every tank but they are my favorite. come in all sorts of colors and very active with the benefit of helping to keep pest at bay. I would also look at a flame angel or any of the other dwarfs. A 90 is tough for fish only because of its size. Many of the more aggressive fish will simply get to large for it.
     
  9. Fultsreef

    Fultsreef Inactive User

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    i would add your cuc after the cycle. the chromis should be fine for your tank...you will experience problems with them surviving though as they have a tendancy to die. i would look into a small school of anthias although they require 2-3 small feedings per day so that may be something to think about. your yellow tang is sized right for your tank as are your choice of clowns. according to liveaquaria picasso triggers need 180 gallons minimum to do well. triggers like to swim around alot. blue tangs also require 180 gallons according to liveaquaria. a flasher wrasse would be sharp in a 90...there is such a huge selection of wrasses to pick from. another tang that looks nice and does a great job cleaning your rocks is the kole yellow eye...mine is always working at eating algae. other options may be royal grammas, basslets...alot of great options for your size tank.

    personally i would check out some of the online dealers...especially liveaquaria to get an idea of what options you have and what tank each of those options is best suited for. you may completely revamp your entire stock list once you see what other choices are available.
     
  10. pdandy

    pdandy Inactive User

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    Thanks for the advice. I went and looked at live aquaria and got a lot of great ideas.

     
  11. nickbuol Here fishy, fishy, fishy...

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    I think that the reason that the guy said that the yellow tang needs a larger tank is that technically it needs 100 gallons or more. However, even if you had a 120 gallon tank, he would then tell you that it would need to be your last fish as it will get agressive towards everything else you want to add later. He actually will steer a number of people away from yellow tangs because they are agressive.

    There are a lot of stories of people keeping yellows just fine with other fish, heck I had a yellow, purple, and pacific blue in a 75 gallon for about 4 years without issue, (long term I was probably asking for trouble) but I've seen yellow tangs in 200+ gallons that are the bad-arse boss of the tank.

    Which one is normal? Probably the yellow being the boss of the tank, but there are a number of times that they have worked out just fine. Just be prepared to potentially have to catch it and resell it or give it away in a few years if it gets too bossy in the tank. I know a number of people have done that with pacific blue tangs since they get really large.
     
  12. Fultsreef

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    Pdandy...glad liveaquaria gave you some inspiration. Thats what i used and still use...i think they provide a good amount of info on a fish so you get a better feel for their requirements so you know what to expect when you cross paths with that fish in a fish store.

    I have a yellow tang in my 120 and a kole yellow eye...the yellow is aggressive to the kole but the kole is freaky fast. My blue jaw trigger had my yellow pinned into a corner a few months ago and ever since then the yellow has been as nice as nice can be. So they can be a very authoratative fish. Another thing i have read about tangs isnt so much the gallons as it is the length of the tank. Alot of tang authorities say no shorter then a six foot tank...alot of people, myself included, dont go by that "rule" i have two tangs in a 4 ft tank and they are fine and have plenty of open swimming space.
     

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