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New Calcium reactor questions

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by blackx-runner, Dec 16, 2012.

  1. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    Ok, so I got everything hooked up and running. Had a few leaks to chase down. One little tip for everyone, the standard 1/4" RO line you buy off the local shelfs does not fit octopus reactors. It won't seal correctly in whatever size metric John Guest fittings are in the reactor. Luckily between all the crap I have around here with that type of line I was able to scavange a chuck to get what I needed.

    Now what? How do I know what PH to run in the reactor. Right now I have it connected to the APEX to turn the CO2 on at 7 and off at 6.8. Funny thing is it appears I have a slight leak in the solenoid and its actually just enough to hold a constant ~6.8 in the reactor. Later in the day when the PH of the tank water rises the solenoid might kick on ita coupe times. I need to get it fixed, but for now it works. I figured that was the high side of the PH scale, but how do I know if I need to take it lower? I checked the starting point of my Alk (tank) and its a little on the low side. Does the reactor maintain levels, or will it also bring them up? In other words should I dose to the desired levels and then adjust the reactor to maintain those levels, or can I run more/stronger effluent to raise the levels and then back them down? If the alk levels drop should I lower the PH, or speed up the effluent? How fast do I run the effluent to start with? Right now its a very fast drip, any faster and it would be closer to a continuos flow I would say.


     
  2. Waverz

    Waverz Expert Reefkeeper

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    http://reef.diesyst.com/reactor/reactor.html
     
  3. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    Thanks man. I'll have to decipher all that before I go about adjusting too much.
     
  4. Jamie

    Jamie Well-Known ReefKeeper Vendor

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    LOL thats why I don't think that a controller and solenoid valves are necessary, once you get the co2 bubble rate set right there is not need to use a solenoid to turn it on and off you just need to match the rate of absorption.


    FYI The Ph inside the reactor and the amount of ca/dkh in the effluent water can take a few days to stabilize. I don't run mine on a controller or monitor the Ph inside the reactor. All I do is if I notice a little gas in the top of the reactor I know that I am at the maximum absorption rate. Once it's set nothing should needs to be adjusted unless your increase the mount of effluent being dosed to the tank. A CA reactor can raise your CA/ALK and/or just maintain it as well. You will just need to get the effluent drip to match what is being consumed in the tank then adjust the co2 rate to maintain the reactors Ph. i.e if you increase the effuent drip rate you will need to increase the co2 bubble rate to match.

    I use black silicone air line tubing on mine much easier to work with than the stiff RO tubing in tight spaces/DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/smile.gif.
     
  5. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    If the calculator is accurate it looks like I am not too far off. Right now the effluent is ~50mL/min flow and dKH of 14.5. It looks like I'll need to get a little higher dKH from the effluent to maintain what I was dosing with 2 part. Now being as how I am at the high side for pH (6.8-7), is my thinking correct that I can just increase CO2 to lower the pH in the reactor slightly to increase the dKH of the effluent?

    I wasn't going to tinker with too much yet. I was more or less looking for some good starting points. It looks like I am a little on the weak side now, but not really too far off. I actually probably tend to make changes a little slower than I should/could just for the fact I don't want to overshoot what I'm looking for. I have a feeling dialing this thing in isn't going to be too hard at all. /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/smile.gif
     
  6. Waverz

    Waverz Expert Reefkeeper

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    The think I like about using the controller to control the pH is it takes half the adjustments out of the equation. All that left to do is set the effluent drip to match your consumption rate.

    I think you will have an easier time dialing it in if you first get your CA/Alk levels where they need to be and then try to set your effluent to maintain that level. Until you get it to match you may need to supplement with 2 part. Once you get it set your golden.

    All this Ca reactor talk makes me want to put mine back online but I am out of CO2 as well as space in my tiny as cabinet. If I do bring it back online I may have to run it remotely.

    I could stash it behind the X-Mas tree. /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/wink.gif
     
  7. ninjazx777 Experienced Reefkeeper

    Des Moines, IA
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    So the octopus uses metric John gust fittings that decides it I'm going with avast
     
  8. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

    Cedar Rapids, IA
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    Is there anything Octopus that is not metric?
     
  9. ninjazx777 Experienced Reefkeeper

    Des Moines, IA
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    Good point
     

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