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My Dirt Cheap 40 gallon build thread!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Bullet, Sep 14, 2011.

  1. Bullet

    Bullet Inactive User

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    My goal with this tank is to prove to myself that I can have a nice tank on a limited buget.  Much different than my last tank!  So far I am in it for under $300. 



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  2. mthomp

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    tagging along on this one.
     
  3. Bullet

    Bullet Inactive User

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    I will post some pictures of my last tank once I have some time to find them....just to show my credentials :)
     
  4. phishcrazee Experienced Reefkeeper

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    I'm sure it will be a sweet tank /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif Can I just say how impressed I am with the cleanliness of your garage floor?!
     
  5. Waverz

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    Looks like your off to a good start Bob! That skimmer looks familiar. LOL
     
  6. Reefified

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    i want to hear/see more about that drain. looks like a toilet brush holder
     
  7. mthomp

    mthomp Inactive User

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    you know now that you mention it.
     
  8. Charlie B

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    Where in the world did you get that cube for under 300? Nice looking start.
     
  9. Andy The Reef Guy

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    Ucoatit.com polyurethane coating for commercial and home garage applications. Not only prevents tracking and enables thorough cleaning but also hides any dirt that's actually there.
    Hell yeah man, looking good! I like the drain you got going on. Just blow a few hundred bucks on an LED system, quit worrying about the budget! lol You know you want to!
     
  10. Bullet

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    Everything should look familiar!  It is all from AC&C.  Craig should do his reciepts like they do at a Gentelmans Clubs....for a small fee they will change the name of the business to make it not as obvious where the charge came from /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/laugh.gif
     
  11. Bullet

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    Thanks!  I really like the floor.  At first I was soooo careful not to scratch it but now...3 years later I just use it as a garage floor and it is holding up great!  I think I remember you crazee.  I lived in Coralville just a few blocks north of the Mall for years.  I am pretty sure you were at my house for a GIRS meeting or something.  Glad to see you are still going!
     
  12. Bullet

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    It's called a bubble killer.  My brother showed it to me.  He loves his.  I was able to plumb everything last night and run it for awhile and so far so good.  I just have to adjust the height because it is still not silent.  Here is a link:



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  13. phishcrazee Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Yep, went to a frag auction in your garage, I remember it went on for over 3 hours, lol!  That food looked really good by the end /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/plain.gif  I remember your other tank in your living room still, I think I have some of the ricordia from that tank- can't kill it /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/plain.gif 
     
  14. Bullet

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    I like the keg fridge in the background!
     
  16. Bullet

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    Just a quick update and picture.  Eveything is coming together.  I don't know that I like the way the rock is yet but it looks like I will have some time to change it if I want.  The ammonia is at .25 and everything else is at 0.  Looks like I am at the begining of the cycle.  If anyone has any advice other than to wait it out I would gladly accept it. 
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  17. Andy The Reef Guy

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    Looking good dude. Yeah you're going to need to ride it out unfortunately. You can expedite the process by a little bit with the addition of some bacterial additives like micro bacter 7, or probio. In order to build robust communities of nitrifying bacteria, you should add some fuel, something like a cocktail shrimp to just sit in there and decay. That will make your ammonia go up further, but it will acclimate your system to significant amounts of waste input. Remember, once it has cycled you don't want it to cycle again a second time upon the introduction of fish just because there's not enough bacteria to handle more waste input.

    There is usually actually several diminishing peaks of ammonia after the initial peak, (although few tests can resolve them accurately) what happens is the bacteria reproduce by fission, and they keep reproducing as long as there is food, eventually they overshoot the amount of food by 2x, and subsequently the colony crashes---> dying bacteria turns into food for surviving cells, and the fission begins again, and bust---->boom---->bust....and eventually equilibrium. Again, this boom and bust cycle just can't be resolved by common test kits. The same happens with nitrite. Not that any of this is practical information, but worth thinking about. I enjoy the critical thinking and appreciate the microbial dynamics of these little systems, god damn remarkable I tell ya!

    Hang in there, you'll get through it.
     
  18. Bullet

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    Thanks for the info. It has been over 10 years since I have gone through a cycle. I am not starting to remember that waiting game. I thought by cooking the rock that might expidite the process but it does not appear that way.

    I do have a question....I should be keeping the lights and skimmer off...right?
     
  19. Andy The Reef Guy

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    Skimmer yes, lights...keeping them off will diminish algae growth, so probably not a bad idea. In fact, probably a good idea, if you think about it diatoms, coccolithophores, dinoflagellates, and cyano bacteria are all capable of fixing nitrogen and you don't want them being the dominant nitrifying bacteria in the system! haha. Cooking the rocks should put a good dent in the process, by cooking you can remove excess decaying material and thus not achieve an astronomically high ammonia peak. However if you only peak at .25 you will want to add a bit more fuel. Personally I would like to see a peak of ~1ppm. So keep your eye on it and make changes as necessary.
     
  20. Bullet

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    Update: I made it through the cycle. Cooking the rock for over a month helped a lot I think. Ammonia ended up peaking at over 1ppm and I then watched it get converted to nitrates over the next few weeks. I had a nice brown algea bloom last week and with the addition of a cleaner crew and shortened light cycle that is under control. I ordered from reefcleaners.org. I would recommend them! $35 shipped for a ton of critters. My cheapo skimmer is working now that I added something but I think I will want a better one later. I am a believer in a good skimmer!. I will blow off the rocks today really good and do a water change. After that I will test everything again but it appears I am ready to start stocking with fish.
     

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