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Just bought a 365 gallon tank

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by jstngates, Dec 30, 2012.

  1. jstngates Experienced Reefkeeper

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    I know that part but you said drill more holes that scares me. I have 10 or so pumps. Thats not good enough?
     
  2. mthomp

    mthomp Inactive User

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    You can try but I feel without a closed loop you are going to be hard pressed to get the flo every where it needs it. With a closed loop you will be able to use fewer pumps in your tank and get more flow to the places the pumps wont reach.
     
  3. F.D. Reefer Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    any pics of this monster?
     
  4. jstngates Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Yes will put some up tomorrow. I'm not arguing just don't know what a closed loop is lol.
     
  5. jstngates Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Yes will put some up tomorrow. I'm not arguing just don't know what a closed loop is lol.
     
  6. kimbo

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    just research closed loop systems.a lot of guys use this method in drag tanks. the pumps basically draw water from one side of the rant thru a hole/bulkhead plumbed to the pump witch returns the water to the opposite side of the tank.therefore making a "closed loop". a great advantage to this method is that there is no back flow if you lose power. with that being said you can have one "closed loop" drilled and plumbed lower in the tank to have flow towards the bottom. and another "closed loop" plumbed towards the top for flow in the upper half. then use your overflows to feed your sump with its own separate return pump. this could be a really nice system when finished. please keep us updated. and ask any questions you have
     
  7. kimbo

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    auto correct lol I meant frag tank
     
  8. jstngates Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Ok so how do you prevent fish from getting sucked in?
     
  9. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    First, get over your fear of drilling, it is very simple with acrylic.

    Here is how I would drill & plumb it.

    Drill four holes on the back side, about 5 inches above the bottom of the tank. All four of these bulkheads would connect into one inlet pipe. Then drill 6-8 holes on the sides & back at various heights, preferably out of direct sight. On the inlets, make sure you use screens so solids wont get sucked into the pump. Also put valves & quick disconnects on both sides of the pump so you can shut off the water & remove pump if needed. On all the returns also have a valve on each line. That way you can always tweak it to keep the water flow changing. You will spend a few hundred on a pump, but in the long run it is much better then a bunch of power heads with short life's that can also shock you.
     
  10. Kpotter2 Expert Reefkeeper

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    This is a closed loop system Justin! You use your pumps in a closed loop as one big power head to push the water around your tank. Notice in the picture the two pumps( Iwaki) they pump water out and back into the tank again over and over creating a loop of water flow.

    Am I correct guys? Its how I understand it anyway.


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  11. jstngates Experienced Reefkeeper

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    I don't think this tank is what I'm looking for. I'm was suppose to pick it tomorrow but didn't realize all this stuff. Am I getting in over my head?
     
  12. moneypit

    moneypit Inactive User

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    Also, as the tank gets bigger so do the required components and the wallet gets thinner alot faster.
     
  13. jstngates Experienced Reefkeeper

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    So to not have to worry I'm guessing the 180 would be ideal for me? I jumped on this tank because I thought it was a good deal. But doing it the right way may be too much work. The money isn't the issue. I'm also thinking when I put it in my basement it will get neglected as we are never down there. I would'nt enjoy it as much as if it were up here.
     
  14. moneypit

    moneypit Inactive User

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  15. jstngates Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Hey thanks guys this could have been bad!
     
  16. Big D Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Yep I rember the days of the 538 gal tank . Don't miss it that's for sure . Or the work and elec . Bill that's for sure.
     
  17. jstngates Experienced Reefkeeper

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    So you didnt like it Big D? What do you have now?
     
  18. Big D Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Water bill , electric bill , and time. It's a lot of money if you do it right. Plus salt. My tank was beautiful but my 220 will be there soon . A lot of people in this hobby should look at price of stuff it is not cheap at all nothing like fresh water and heck some of fresh water stuff can be big bucks to. Just like money pit said . O and I forgot moister in house wrecked all my pella windows I had to replace . Wife was here helping me lol. Hey I only live in belle Plaine I can talk to you about it more.


     
  19. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team

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    It sounds like you jumped a little too soon on a very large tank. Glad you're taking the time now to slow down and plan, and even reconsider setting up that large of a tank. Take the time to research what it takes to SUCCESSFULLY run a tank that large.I am sure you will do all right with the proper planning and knowledge, but I would hate to see you take all the time and effort into setting up something that you would not end up enjoying. Big tanks need a different level of dedication and planning. Even something like a 180 or 220 would be a new learning experience over something smaller. I know it sure was for me when I started planning and building my 250 setup.
    Good luck with whatever direction you decide to take, and remember we're always here for any questions.
     
  20. areefoffaith

    areefoffaith Inactive User

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    we supported the floor under the tank and installed it upstairs we really enjoy it being upstairs
     

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