Ich issues

Justin, the only way to rid your tank of ich, is to QT your fish and get them in a hospital tank. Treat that tank with copper, or hypo for 6-8 weeks, while leaving your DT fish less. That's the only way to break the biological cycle of the ich. I had a really good write up about it on RC, they have it Stuck to the top forum, because it's great USEFUL knowledge. Check it out.

UV sterilizers are worthless, because the ich preys on the fish, I don't care what anyone says. They are ignorant. Medication is a waste of time because none of that crap is reef safe, or so they say it is, but do you trust a 5$ bottle of crap in a thousand plus dollar investment? I'd sure hope not!

Do yourself a favor, read the sticky on ICH! On reef central, do hypo treatment, or copper if you have time to test everyday. I did hypo, much safer, same results. Here is the link.

http://www.reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1990809

Do yourself a favor and read this, ALL OF IT, and decide for yourself.

I'm going to get flammed for this, but I don't care. You have been given a bunch of crappy information, not all of it, but read that article and decide for yourself.

Good luck, buddy! Remember, I had to do this once too, once you go through it, you will QT all your new fish to prevent a future occurrence.

Copper treatment for new fish to rid of parasites is a PLUS, so you never have to worry about introducing a parasite into your tank.

Happy Reefing.. That link would be good information for you all as well

 

you tell him to treat the tank with copper. then you say not to. then you say he is given faulty info. 
you are right in saying most meds are not reef safe, and the reason is they are meant for a QT or hospital tank. Not for your reef tank.
no one will flame you since you gave both sides of the story, giving no one a reason to flame both sides of the story. 
UV does work. Milk and water are UV sterilized before being put in the stores, if they didnt work people would be sick. 
QT any/all new additions to your tank. no ifs ands or buts about it. it will help prevent situations like this or worse ones from occurring.

 

Mike

Make sure you do all your homework. Please feel free to express your own opinion, but do not state facts that are not true.

UV is one of the most reliable tools to combat diseases. Dont believe me, they why does Divers Den have 6 massive UV sterlizers running on all their systems as well as all public aquariums. It does work! Not only does it fight disease & parasites, but it makes your water crystal clear and helps to eliminates algae.

The UV kills the ich parasite when it is in its free swiimming stage, so no it wont cure your ich in 2 days. There are 4 stages of ich, and it is not treatable in all stages. That is why it takes more then a week to kill it off.

Hypo is hit or miss and most people cannot hypo their diplay tank. If they are going to remove their fish into a hospital tank, they might as well treat them with the 100% cure which is copper. The key is using good copper and having a reliable copper test kit.

If you are using Hypo, it is key to have a reliable Hydrometer that you calibrate regularly, and raise the salinity up very slowly when you are done.

Also make sure it is ich & not another parasite. We have been using a 1-2 punch of copper and prazipro with very good results.

 

I'm in the process of letting my DT become crypto free. I have 4 more weeks and I can start adding fish. In my research I discovered that it takes up to 72 days for crypto to completely die out, 6 weeks is good but there has been studies that have seen it live up to 72 days. I removed all my fish, there were only 4, but I just bit the bullet now and I will be treating all new additions with Hypo to kill any crypto parasites prior to addition to DT. It would also be a good idea to dip your corals and QT for 3 days prior to adding them to the DT as well. Crypto does not live on or in rock or corals but they can be attached to them or in the water. Also never add water from LFS or others to your DT, this also may introduce crypto to your clean tank. These are just a few things I came across in my research and will be adding to my regimen when adding to the tank. Just my 2 cents. Here is a link that I used when researching this topic.
http://www.reefsanctuary.com/forums/fish-diseases-treatments/52236-curing-fish-marine-ich.html

 

Not for ich it isn't. I'll argue all day, idc. Read that article

 

Tholton,I have him options. Before skimming through, and then giving your 2 cents, read, and read again. Try reading that thread, do you some good. Now I'm done talking about it. This is a fckin joke

 

Now this makes sense! Sounds a ton easier too.
It's amazing how many people think they are marine biologists when they "know a little" on the subject.
I shall keep this method in mind, bud. If I ever run into this issue again. I shouldn't, since I treat my new inhabitants in my qt tank with copper for two-four weeks before they go into my DT tank

 

Here is a direct copy from the ich write up on RC for all of you who think a UV sterilizer is the way to go.. What a joke...
Maybe you all need to freshen up your knowledge... That article I trust, and so do tens of thousands of other people. Quit giving off crappy information until you know the facts
Here's the links kids. 
http://reefcentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1985626
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15. UV and/or Ozone kills Cryptocaryon irritans. Ozone doesn't kill all parasites that pass through the unit, nor does the water treated with ozone kill the parasites. UV only kills the parasites that pass through the unit. Since the entire water volume does not pass through the unit, not all ich parasites will pass through the unit, so the UV will not rid an aquarium of Cryptocaryon irritans. A UV can help prevent a 'bloom' of the parasites however, and thus help in its control. UV is not a cure nor a preventative measure for Cryptocaryon irritans. When water is shared by multiple tanks, usage of UV can make spreading this parasite from tank to tank significantly less likely.


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Anyone can write an article and put it on RC. That doesnt make it true. Who is this guy & what are his credentials to make him an expert?

I will trust the director of Live Aquaria and Divers Den, and aquarium directors at public aquariums over someone on RC who knows how to wrtie an article.

 

But xroads, the author has #22,851 posts! He HAS to be an expert. Right? Right? (wrong)

 

I bet you did not think this would be so controversial of a subject. I have noticed on GIRS in my short time on the site that little things get blown way out of proportion and become personal real fast. I am by far no expert but in my 14 years around the hobby I have learned a lot and I am sure each and every one of us are still learning new things everyday, I sure am. Maybe it is just me being a "Newbie" to the site and people know each other better than I think but the rhetoric is very hostile and can be quite a "TURN OFF" and this is one of the reasons why I have not paid for a membership yet. It seems to get personal fast and this is not the only thread I have noticed this in. This is my perception which in turn is my reality. My intent for joining this site was to meet local people that I can bounce ideas off of and learn from even if I am not having the problem that is being discusssed, I may one day need that bit of info.

We should do our own research and not just take someone's word on this or any site as gospel. My personal process is to gather information from several areas and then make my own informed decision.

 

So if a couple people were nicer you would join the club?

 

I feel the same way as Tickity at this point. That and im in the process of moving so im kinda tied up at the moment.

 

I don't consider the very few major dick wads on this board to represent the club as a whole.

Thicken your skin a little and believe me the good will overcome the bad 100% of the time.

 

Things tend to get heated when someone who doesn't know what there talking about gives bad advice, it's just that simple. With little or no experience people shouldn't be "swearing" and "proclaiming" there solution is right. I'm sorry but this has happened like 10 or 15 times on various posts and it's almost always involving the same person. Just pointing out the obvious, if no one else will say it I sure will!

 

couldnt have said it any better

 

That came from a marine biologist that is fiends from snorkavich, who also has studied saltwater since 1980, but I forgot Craig, you know everything about saltwater.
I have yet to see them sticky something that is junk.... By the way... Not trying to be a dick, but most of these ideas that everyone's been writing about are far from the truth, not all at correct.
Give someone a reputable source with a good write up, and y'all still *****. absolutely pathetic
Don't know why a guy who is 76 years old, would give me a faulty write up. 
You guys should go back to playing WOW or what ever you nerds do

 

Never said that so stfu

 

Maybe we should go back to talking about Tanked /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif