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ICH issues again

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by jstngates, Apr 3, 2013.

  1. jstngates Experienced Reefkeeper

    Toledo Iowa
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    I know this gets posted alot but this time I ran a QT and did it right. I bought a powder blue and a flame angel. Ran them thru qt them acclimated them to my tank. After 4 days in my DT they both came down with ich. I played it out fed real garlic that I choped up and soked in the food everyday. Well this past weekend while I was at my in laws my flame vanished. Tonight I figured it was enough and moved all my rock and caught the powder and put her back into the QT. Am I gonna ever be able to add new fish to my tank? Seems like if its bought outside from the club they do not do good. If I buy fish from members they make it. Perameters are all ok. Very little nitrates and low phosphates. I'm not gonna even try to put the powder blue back in. I will heal her up then sell her. Is it just me or do others have problems buying fish?
     
  2. erayk1 Well-Known ReefKeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    Ok. First off, fish that you get from stores are almost all wild caught.

    Meaning: They ALL have ich. They usually only express signs of ich when they are stressed out (due to water quality issues or pestering from other tankmates).
    However, just a change in enviroment is enough to stress certain fish out, especially tangs and angels.

    Fish you get from other memebers have been in closed environments and have gotten use to being in a tank (even dirty tanks). That is why they have a better survival rate.

    Lastly if you have an aggressor in your tank, most likely you will have little success adding other fish to your tank until that fish out of there (maybe throw that one in the QT for a time out) Sometimes another fish takes rank when the bastard fish is gone so also keep that in mind.

    Bottom line is you have to judge the personalities of the inhabitants you have in your tank and try to make the best decisions. I've never seen your tank in person so I cant do that for you. Sorry for the bad luck but I hope that puts some perspetive on the issue.





     
  3. jstngates Experienced Reefkeeper

    Toledo Iowa
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    I did take the bad fish out lol. The damsels are still in the sump. She ate great even while she was in there and got along with my other 2 tangs great. Could lights be a big factor as they aren't use to them? I know ich has been in my system it's weird I can keep cheap fish but not more expensive.
     
  4. Sponge Expert Reefkeeper Vendor

    Marshalltown, IA
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    Lighting won't cause ich Justin but it is a good idea to not have the lights on when putting a new fish into QT and then use subdued lighting initially in QT. When it's time to add a new fish to the DT, having the lights out can be a good idea /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif Then, one can monitor how the new fish is getting along with the other fish just with the ambient lighting in the room. Should you suspect there might be aggression, you can keep the lights off for a day or two without hurting anything /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif Good luck!
     
  5. jstngates Experienced Reefkeeper

    Toledo Iowa
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    I didn't see any aggression this time that's why I took my damsels out. I will just stick with blennies and gobies for some new fish.
     
  6. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

    La Porte City, IA
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    If you keep doing it halfway everytime, you will always have issues.

    1. Have you let your display tank go 100% fishless for a minimum of 6 weeks? If yes, goto number 2 if no, goto number 3

    2. Do you keep new fish in your QT for a minimum of four weeks and treat qt with copper? If no, goto number 3

    3. Take all fish out of display tank. Every fish. Dont worry about coral, shrimp, etc. Now, DO NOT add any fish for a MINIMUM of 6 weeks back into the tank. Meanwhile, once all fish in QT are eating and looking good, treat with copper according to instructions. All fish should be in QT for a MINIMUM of four weeks to allow the full life cycle of ich to be killed by copper.
     
  7. Tickyty

    Tickyty Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    +1 but I would take it a little futher and let you tank go fallow for 10 weeks. I say 10 weeks because their have been studies that show some strains can take up to 72 days. The tank is already empty so going another 4 weeks should not kill you.



     
  8. softieatheart

    softieatheart Inactive User

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    Agreed. Although shouldn't ALL fish come out of the system, not just the display? That parasite would travel through the entire system, infecting fish in the sump too, correct?



     
  9. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

    La Porte City, IA
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    Yes

    The QT system should be totally separate.
     
  10. Big John

    Big John Inactive User

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    Dont forget to take your fish out of your sump and put in QT.
     

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