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February 19th Skimmer Meeting

Discussion in 'Des Moines & Ames Region' started by jtesdall, Feb 16, 2009.

  1. jtesdall

    jtesdall Expert Reefkeeper

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    If its a hassle don't bother. I am just wondering if we are talking about specific detail of skimmer if it might not help to have one handy. Even if CPR's suck./DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/tongue.gif
     
  2. mcclandy

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    i wish i had seen this before now, i would have liked to hear this!
     
  3. slovan

    slovan Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Thanks for a great meeting Joel! Very informative and great to see old and new faces. :)
     
  4. gb387

    gb387 Inactive User

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    Great meeting... thanks to all for the information.
     
  5. jtesdall

    jtesdall Expert Reefkeeper

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    Thanks all! Great meeting we had 12 show up! A great start going into the March Frag Swap.
     
  6. Rustin

    Rustin Inactive User GIRS Member

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    Thanks to everyone! I had a great time and got to learn a little. Hope to see everyone at the next meeting!!
     
  7. cagri

    cagri Inactive User

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    Thanks everyone, it was great meeting, seeing you again, very informative meeting, and thanks Joel for hosting it.
     
  8. beckerj3 Expert Reefkeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    Good meeting.  Nice to see such a good attendance.  Hopefully we can keep this going!
    Just following up on what we talked about yesterday  Last night it was said that the club had a recommendation for the Octopus skimmers - so I did some looking at them today.    I see them classified as 1) Hang-on back; 2) Needle wheel; 3) Re-circulating (I believe needle wheel also), 3) Pro and 4) Extreme.  Which version have club members had experience with?  I'm starting to think about replacing the one I have (Sea Urchin pro - basically the Remora but in the sump).  I'm not looking at hang-on back and the Pro and Extreme are definitely more expensive.  SOr really it comes down to the Needle wheel and re-circulating needle wheel.  Do club members have experience with these versions. 
     
  9. mcclandy

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    i know i know.. i should have been there lastnight ... and i have not looked for modifications to the remora lately... but what is the best way to get the best bang out of a remora skimmer-leave it alone or mod it; and how? i am going to set up my 29gal tanks again and get my 72 set up this summer. maybe just a link that someone knows of would be a good start for me. i won't be getting to it any time soon... like in a couple months hopefully. Thanks in advance!
     
  10. Wayne1

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    Posted By beckerj3 on 02/20/2009 02:25 PM
    Good meeting.  Nice to see such a good attendance.  Hopefully we can keep this going!
    Just following up on what we talked about yesterday  Last night it was said that the club had a recommendation for the Octopus skimmers - so I did some looking at them today.    I see them classified as 1) Hang-on back; 2) Needle wheel; 3) Re-circulating (I believe needle wheel also), 3) Pro and 4) Extreme.  Which version have club members had experience with?  I'm starting to think about replacing the one I have (Sea Urchin pro - basically the Remora but in the sump).  I'm not looking at hang-on back and the Pro and Extreme are definitely more expensive.  SOr really it comes down to the Needle wheel and re-circulating needle wheel.  Do club members have experience with these versions. 
    Beckerj3, i don't have any experience with a recirc-octo. as far as mesh wheel or needle wheel this is what i read the needle wheel is a great option for someone one who wants to plug and play as you  don't have to tune them as much,and  supposely they don't pull as much air, the mesh-mod is a little more work because if you put to much mesh on the impeller sometimes you will have startup issues with it and they pull a little more air. There used to be a huge thread on RC comparing them.  One thing about the recirc is you will have to have a feed pump to it , where just a reg. needle wheel you will not.  Keep reading about them.  A few people over in the QC areas have the skimmers i think so you might ask them as well. 
    By the way it was nice meeting everybody.....
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  11. snowman82

    snowman82 Experienced Reefkeeper

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    i had a good time. I think i'm going to stick with my skimmer for n now coralife 125 needlewheel. it works well for me and hangs on my sump instead of inside which i like personally. if i go to another one i will prolly go with an octopus. i just listened to LSF and the guy said he had a couple octopus's and they didn't hold up well for him or work well. oh well i learned alot and had a good time, can't wait for a tank tour though /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/wink.gif
     
  12. cagri

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    Posted By mcclandy on 02/20/2009 02:41 PM
    i know i know.. i should have been there lastnight ... and i have not looked for modifications to the remora lately... but what is the best way to get the best bang out of a remora skimmer-leave it alone or mod it; and how? i am going to set up my 29gal tanks again and get my 72 set up this summer. maybe just a link that someone knows of would be a good start for me. i won't be getting to it any time soon... like in a couple months hopefully. Thanks in advance!
    The only way to modify remora skimmers is to upgrade the pump on them as far as I know, I upgraded my pump to mag 7 on remora pro at one point in time to get more out of it.
     
  13. mcclandy

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    Cagri, I have heard of putting the larger pump on them.... did it make the upgrade well worth it in your opinion? thanks for the reply
     
  14. cagri

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    Posted By mcclandy on 02/22/2009 01:13 PM
    Cagri, I have heard of putting the larger pump on them.... did it make the upgrade well worth it in your opinion? thanks for the reply I think so, it was definately an improvement, but honestly mag 7 was almost too much without a taller neck collection cup, I could only get wet skimmate, perhaps mag 5 would have been better with stock collection cup, also periodic(monthly at least) cleaning of the injectors on these skimmers make a big difference in my experience.
     
  15. B-Rad

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    Hi everyone!

    Beckerj3, I haven't had experience with Octopus line of skimmers, but I can say that ( and this is just my opinion! ) the re-circulating needle wheel is the way to go. It allows you more versatility, with out hindering the skimming proses. You can run a slow gravity feed from your main tank, which allows the water entering the skimmer more time to be processed, thus cleaner when it leaves the skimmer. Or you can run a feed pump and run it that way. You could even use a needle wheel feed pump to double the out put of the skimmer.

    Just a thought. Hope my 2 cents helps.  I hope to make it out there for the frag swap, so I can meet the Des Moines crew. See ya guys there!!

     

    -Rick-
     
  16. IowaDiver Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Posted By beckerj3 on 02/20/2009 02:25 PM
    Good meeting.  Nice to see such a good attendance.  Hopefully we can keep this going!
    Just following up on what we talked about yesterday  Last night it was said that the club had a recommendation for the Octopus skimmers - so I did some looking at them today.    I see them classified as 1) Hang-on back; 2) Needle wheel; 3) Re-circulating (I believe needle wheel also), 3) Pro and 4) Extreme.  Which version have club members had experience with?  I'm starting to think about replacing the one I have (Sea Urchin pro - basically the Remora but in the sump).  I'm not looking at hang-on back and the Pro and Extreme are definitely more expensive.  SOr really it comes down to the Needle wheel and re-circulating needle wheel.  Do club members have experience with these versions. 
    I have a needlewheel and it does pretty good. I don't know if the cost of adding a second pump is worth the results for a recirculating skimmer. An alternative is to perform the mesh mod on the needlewheel. The mesh is very cheap and it greatly increased the performance of my skimmer.
     

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