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EB8 Green Light Blinking! Help!

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Sponge, May 27, 2012.

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  1. May 27, 2012 #1
    Sponge Marshalltown, IA

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    Thanks to Jason Sadler/DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/kiss.gif got the Apex up and running yesterday!  Everything went well/DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/w00t.gif...until hubby attached USB cable to baseboard/DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/plain.gif  Now here's what I have




    EB8 green light blinking on 40B.  Some outlets working/on, some not/off.   I think it's outlets 1 through 4 and ,6, that are not running what was plugged in to them.  4 outlets on the same side and 1 on the other side are nonfunctional.  The outlets set on times of day (lights & fan light), not working; those running continuously(return pump,etc), are on except for skimmer. Skimmer is not running-not on a time of day but is to go off if outlet 2 off which I believe it is off.   Do I have a programming error? a broken wire in the USB cable? some bad outlets?  I didn't get a warning sound on anything; just noticed the lights were off.  Since I don't know how to do stuff, I'm lost!
     
  2. May 27, 2012 #2
    blackx-runner Cedar Rapids, IA

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    What do you mean your hubby attached USB cable to baseboard? Are you using standard, straight through USB cables? No signal boosters or anything?
    I believe blinking green is a communication issue. Basically meaning the outlets aren't communicating with the base. I would guess they outlets are at the fallback state. I would try plugging in the cord to a different USB port, or try a different cord altogether.
     
  3. May 27, 2012 #3
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    I'm running a 135g and a 40B. The 40B is the one with the problems. The display is showing the temp on the 135 but not the 40B as it did yesterday (should display the temp). The status light is blinking green on the PM1 for the 40B as it is on the EB8. Jason and I ran the USB cable (from USBFirewire.com-made specifically for the Apex) from the 135 to the 40B (as the tanks are across the room) and the hubby attached it to the baseboard so as noone would trip/etc on it.

    I unplugged the USB cables as you suggested from the 135 and the 40B and the same happened-135 is ok, no change with the 40B. I am using wireless(via NetGear adapter) but I think that's just for the internet access? How, or can I, tell if the outlets are in Fallback state?
     
  4. May 27, 2012 #4
    Andy The Reef Guy

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    okay...did you restart the control unit? did you unplug the USB plug from the dc8 and then plug it back in after 30 seconds? If you go into the outlet set up and it will tell you what the fallback position of that outlet is, then check to see if those settings align with your observations.
     
  5. May 27, 2012 #5
    Andy The Reef Guy

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    Also, did you configure the DC8 from the module setup in the configuration menu.
     
  6. May 27, 2012 #6
    jnjsad

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    There is an issue with your aquabus "USB" cable.  The blinking green light does mean a communication issue with the main control center.  Check along the baseboard to see if hubby accidently pierced the USB cable or if it got severely crimped somewhere.  My bet is you may need a new aquabus cable since it was functioning okay until it got attached to the baseboard.  ??
     
  7. May 27, 2012 #7
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    You could also try to disconnect the 2nd EB8 and take it over to your main tank. Use one of those spare aquabus cables and plug it in. If your EB8 shows solid green light...then you know it's your 50' aquabus cable....that's the issue.
     
  8. May 28, 2012 #8
    blackx-runner Cedar Rapids, IA

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    I would try this first. It really sounds like it is an issue with that cable.
     
  9. May 28, 2012 #9
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    I agree blackxrunner and jnsdad.

    Also, just try restarting the thing. Right now everything is in fallback position.....meaning the ebb is communicating but just not totally. Often times a reset will take care of that.

     
  10. May 28, 2012 #10
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    Thanks EVERYONE for chiming in here...it helps! /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif Here's what I've done (simple things like checking to see if plugs were loose, etc were all done):

    Took 40B EB8 over to 135g EB8. did several things over the hours...Solid green light on 40B EB8 using the long USB cord...so it seems to work fine /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif

    At different times, different outlets would and would not start the 135g ATO. As of right now (2pm), all outlets run the ATO except outlet #1 (Heater for the 40B).

    Just did a restart (Setup-Net Setup-Restart): All working except outlet #1.

    In Outlet Setup, outlet #1 shows this: Fallback ON...If Temp < 77.0 Then ON...If Temp >78.0 Then OFF

    So what's wrong with outlet #1? Is it because the 40B temp probe is not plugged in and there's no temp reading currently?
     
  11. May 28, 2012 #11
    Sponge Marshalltown, IA

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    So /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/hehe.gif  /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/kiss.gif
     
  12. May 28, 2012 #12
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    Jason did everything (Bless his heart!) but I'm sure he did/DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/biggrin.gif
     
  13. May 28, 2012 #13
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    Did it...all working except #! which is the heater outlet/DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/biggrin.gif
     
  14. May 28, 2012 #14
    jnjsad

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    Terri - remove programming for outlet 1 on 40B EB8. Enter the following:
    Fallback ON
    Set ON
    that should be the only thing in that programming. That should turn that outlet on regardless of settings. That will tell us if outlet 1 is working at all. If it is...then you know it has something to do with your temp settings for the 40B. If there is no temp probe registering a temp in the 40 B, then based on your previous programming - it should turn that outlet off. I think your Outlet 1 is working.
     
  15. May 28, 2012 #15
    Sponge Marshalltown, IA

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    Outlet 1 is working..YEAH!

    Now the lights and skimmer on the 135 is shutting off! The display wouldn't let me get into it so I unplugged the cord, etc. When I got the display on, it said to press cancel for the feed mode...I did and the lights & skimmer came back on...HUH? The lights shouldn't go off in feed mode and we didn't do a feed mode. It just did it again!!!
     
  16. May 28, 2012 #16
    jnjsad

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    Terri - google "feed mode programming for apex".  There is probably something in the programming that is triggering feed mode to turn off certain outlets.  I know we didn't mess with feed mode programming when I was over there...but by default there may be something.  Feed mode usually happens when you press the down arrow on the display unit.  Did you bump it by accident?  YOu can always cancel...but try to google programming codes.  I'm not too familiar with them.
     
  17. May 28, 2012 #17
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    I saw 5 , minutes I would guess, on Feed A-D, so I updated it to 0 on all four. I plugged the long cord in to both EB8's and it did it again /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/sad.gif So I used the short cord and everything is working so far. I just plugged the long cord in and the EB8 on the 40B is blinking again which it isn't on the short cord. It also shut the skimmer off, again. Short cord and all is a go with the skimmer, steady green light. Earlier the EB8 was working when I removed the Temp "Then & If". I think I reset the EB8 earlier when I had the long cord plugged in but I've done so many things I don't remember for sure...doh! I also don't remember what I did! grrr...
    Rod did a continuity test on both ends of the long cord and that is fine/DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/smile.gif


     My brain is getting OVERLOADed! LOL
     
  18. May 28, 2012 #18
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    How do I temporarily shut off the skimmer so I can clean it?
     
  19. May 28, 2012 #19
    jnjsad

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    control status - manual control - skimmer - off
     
  20. May 28, 2012 #20
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    UPDATE! haha don't forget to hit update after changing the status of an outlet otherwise it won't register.
    I don't think you have anything stuck in a feeding mode.
     
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