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Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by ScubaTodd, Mar 29, 2009.

  1. ScubaTodd

    ScubaTodd Inactive User

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    I was wondering if anybody has ever bought live rock from places like gulf-view. Its a place that sells live rock and sand directly from diving for it off the coast in Florida. It looks like a good thing.
     
  2. CyberJester

    CyberJester Inactive User

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    Wild live rock can not be harvested off of the coast, it's illeagal to do so.
    It can only be aqua culture now, so basically someone has to have a live rock farm there.
     
  3. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper GIRS Member

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    Wild live rock can not be harvested off of the coast, it's illeagal to do so.
    It can only be aqua culture now, so basically someone has to have a live rock farm there.


    CyberJester-

    How dose one aquaculture live rock?? It takes a long time for live rock to form. What do they do grow sps then kill it so live rock can form from it's skeleton?? Please clairify.
    -Bill

     
  4. h2so4hurts

    h2so4hurts Inactive User

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    Maybe they can't harvest in Florida, but Bali, Tonga, and Figi don't seem to have a problem shipping their rock here.
     
  5. ScubaTodd

    ScubaTodd Inactive User

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    ive talked to the guy who runs the store and he told me that there are only two guys left with the rights to get live rock from the reefs down there. Maybe some kind of grandfather in system? I think that ones my new tank is up that im going to give it a try. I can let everyone know the outcome.
     
  6. CyberJester

    CyberJester Inactive User

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    Posted By Bill on 03/30/2009 08:34 AM
    Wild live rock can not be harvested off of the coast, it's illeagal to do so.
    It can only be aqua culture now, so basically someone has to have a live rock farm there.
    CyberJester-
    How dose one aquaculture live rock?? It takes a long time for live rock to form. What do they do grow sps then kill it so live rock can form from it's skeleton?? Please clairify.
    -Bill
    How they do it is, a permit is issued designating you a space in the ocean off of the coast.
    They rope of the permeter and section it off.
    Then they take limestone that is dug out of quary, they place the limestone in their beds and wait for it to cure (grown coraline, corals, etc...)
    Then they sell it the aquarium industry.
     
  7. Big Country

    Big Country Inactive User

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    Saw an ad in TFH this month for direct from diver aquacultured rock - from the ocean, but how CyberJester describes it. At first glance, I missed the aquacultured part...
     
  8. glaspie69

    glaspie69 Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Getting live rock from the ocean is asking for issues, if it's not properly cured things could go bad in a hurry....and by the time you cure it properly everything that would have been alive is probably dead.
     
  9. Bela

    Bela Inactive User

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    Live-rock can be culured. It is made via cement mized with some araganite chunks and aragonite sand. Once the cement dries, it is placed in a saltwater vet which is airated and circulated until it provides a steady pH, about 30-60 days. From there you just mix it with water that is already seeded with good live rock and give it time. This can take a year or more for good live rock to be formed. Indo-Pacific Sea Farms in Hawaii only sells live rock which they cultuer. Same with all of their livestock, all purely aquacultured. It can be done, but it needs a large facility and time to setup. Once it is setup, however, a cycle can be formed, and as customers purchase the rock they can just toss in new chunks of dead rock to begin the process all over again.
     
  10. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper GIRS Member

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    Man that is not live rock that's crap! I would be totaly pissed if some one sold me lime stone or cement as live rock!

    -Bill
     
  11. JB Veteran Reefkeeper

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    I've seen some crappy DIY rock, but I've also seen some pieces as nice as any from the ocean. Functionality, they are exactly the same as long as they have been cured properly and seeded with existing rock.

    -JB
     
  12. Bela

    Bela Inactive User

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    Some of it actually looks REALLY nice, and it does the job just as well as the "real" stuff, not to mention it helps sustain natural ecosystems by not putting stress on them. I am sure if you saw a GOOD piece of man made rock you would have no problem with it :) The difficult part is finding the good stuff /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/doze.gif
     

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