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Was it plugged into outlet 4 or 8 by chance?

 

Thats what I was going to suggest checking! Also turn the outlet to on or off and see if it works that way.

 

It seems like everyone has issues with the Apex. Are they really hard to figure out?

 

lol you are funny. The Apex is the #1 controller out there so that's why its all you hear about . The Apex is the greatest Reef device or equipment I have bought so far. They are not hard to figure out once you know what you are doing. Until then you ask questions and learn. Some times as I have done you use one another programs to set yourself up and then tweak them as you want and as you learn more.


You will have to do some light reading. lol


KP

 

Try my program! This should work just fine.

Fallback OFF

If 75TEMP < 77.3 Then ON

If 75TEMP > 77.8 Then OFF


I know this is not fool prof, but I use the Emailalert outlet to send me a email when Temp is lower then 77.3 just in case at this point outlet falls back to off. So I should get an email about temp and this will alert me to any issue with communication or anything could be wrong. Not sure if it's right ,but that's what I do for now. There are so many ways to skin a cat here. When I have time I may check on the Heater thermostat in case Apex don't work.


You don't want you heater to fall back to ON or if there is a problem with Apex then it will say on.

Fallback =The Fallback statement establishes what state the outlet should be in if the EB4/8 loses communication with the base module, which is why it doesn&rsquo;t apply to virtual outlets.

Set =The Set statement is used to establish the starting point for this outlet's register state for this run through the program - it initializes the outlet.


Here is a little more from page 39 of Manual:


The &lsquo;Fallback&rsquo; and &lsquo;Set&rsquo; Statements Almost every physical outlet is going to need a Fallback and a Set statement regardless of whatever program statements you might have (virtual outlets don&rsquo;t need a Fallback statement). These will normally be the first and second statements of the outlet program. The Fallback statement establishes what state the outlet should be in if the EB4/8 loses communication with the base module, which is why it doesn&rsquo;t apply to virtual outlets. It&rsquo;s only for physical outlets on Aquabus modules (does not apply to older &lsquo;legacy&rsquo; modules like the DC8 or the built-in outlets in the Jr.). In case of communications failure, what do you want this outlet to do? For a return pump, you probably want the fallback to be ON since having your main pump shut down would be a bad thing. On the other hand, if your outlet controls your dosing pump, perhaps fallback OFF is more appropriate because the pump could fatally dose your tank. Many people set their lights to Fallback OFF but I prefer to have them ON in this case so I can manually control them via the light ballast's on/off switch. If you set them to Fallback OFF, then they don't get any power and you have to pull wires and find a wall outlet to plug them into while you resolve whatever controller issue you might have.

Page 40

The Set statement is used to establish the starting point for this outlet's register state for this run through the program - it initializes the outlet. If you have a pump that's supposed to run 7x24 without any other conditions, then all you need is these two statements...Fallback ON and Set ON. That's it. The pump will run all the time even if the EB8 loses communications with the base module. Be careful with the SET statement. If you&rsquo;re having a problem with an outlet program working the way you want, take a look at SET. Consider this simple example (from my own tank): Fallback OFF Set OFF If Temp > 78.5 Then ON If Temp < 78 Then OFF What will the state of the outlet be if the temperature is 78.3 degrees? It will be OFF. In fact, any temperature that is lower than 78.6 (because the stmt is > 78.5, i.e. 78.6) and the outlet will be OFF. The If Temp < 78 Then OFF statement is meaningless. This is because of the Set OFF statement. Remove that statement and what is the outlet state at 78.3? It depends on whether the temperature is coming up from 78 (in which case it would be OFF) or coming down from 78.5 in which case it would be ON. SET is one of those little &ldquo;gotcha&rdquo; commands that you always have to look at, especially if something isn&rsquo;t working the way you think it should. In general do not use the set statement if you use the probe values to turn on/off the outlet.


I would check your set statement. I don't use one, because it says if you use probe values to turn it the outlet on and off its not a good Idea!


Hope this helps! I PMed you my cell number if you need any more help!


KP

 

What kind of tester is your husban using? I fail to see the problem. maybe I am reading wrong but it sounds like your tank is being heated. When I change from on to off or auto it seems like I have to put refresh twice.

 

Does it look like This?


Or this one?

 

Has your temp went below what you set as your low limit?

 

Contact Neptune support as we talk about. It maybe something simple or something crazy. Keep us posted!

 

Good luck! Don't worry I have faith in Paul at tech support with Neptune systems. He is great and knows his Apex's.

 

Status update?