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Algae ID ?

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Lee, Dec 28, 2012.

  1. Lee

    Lee Experienced Reefkeeper

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    Anyone know what type of algae this might be? It's brown & very stringy. It blows off really easy but then shows up again the next day. I sure hope it's not dinoflagellates....I havent noticed any snails dying off which I hear is a sign.


    It seems similar to Cyano but just brown in color and really stringy. It does have airbubbles that seem to form.


    It started showing up about 2-3 weeks ago. Only things that has really changed is that I had been feeding the fish very heavy for a few weeks prior. I've stopped feeding so heavy because of it. I also started using Instant Ocean salt mix a few weeks ago along with a RO/DI reconsititution supplement. I know my Alk/CA have been testing low and I think that is a big part of why I cant get this algae under control. (Water changes havent been helping since the IO salt tests so low).


    I also haven't been able to test for Mg yet until my test kit arrives (on backorder and should be here in a week or 2) so I've struggled with keeping the Ca/Alk levels up as I dont want to overdose on Mg until I can test for it.


    Have been doing regular weekly 20% waterchanges with RO/DI that tests 0TDS.


    Sure hope it's just cyano and after I get my Alk/CA levels up it will stop coming back.


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  2. iaJim

    iaJim Inactive User

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    Yup, those are dinos, sorry. No light at all helps set them back.
     
  3. ninjazx777 Experienced Reefkeeper

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    I think its cyano bacteria it usually only shows up if you have high nitrates and phosphates check your water parameters
     
  4. iaJim

    iaJim Inactive User

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    Does it look like little balloons on strings at the end of the day? Is it better in the morning than it is in the evening? That's what dinos looked like in my tank when I had them.
     
  5. mpivit Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    It looks very similar to what I had last march when I started adding vinegar to my kalk topoff. I also feared Dino's, but I believe mine was some sort of bacteria, like cyano on steroids. Is it on your sand as well?
    My alk also dropped low at that time which I suspect had something to do with it.
    The bad news is my corals became unhappy and closed up, all but the Duncan, ultimately i only lost a small sps frag ( i think it was called a purple nana). After it went away and everything recovered from the ordeal.

    I used kent phosphate sponge and I would blow it off of my rock every day, only to have it come back by morning, eventually I decided to let it burn itself out. It got so thick on the sand i could lift it off like a pudding skin.
    When it started to clear I added 15 nasirius, 10cerith snails, 6 hermits, and a fighting conch to help keep everything a little cleaner. I've had no outbreaks since. It lasted 3-4 weeks.

    Prior to that I only had 8 small turbo snails in my 75 and my tank was about 6 months old.

     
  6. jstngates Experienced Reefkeeper

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    I had it a couple of years ago and was told by an experienced guy on here (no names) to shut lights off a couple days and did. It took care of the problem.
     
  7. jstngates Experienced Reefkeeper

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    And increase water movement
     
  8. Lee

    Lee Experienced Reefkeeper

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    I haven't tested nitrates since I threw my kit out. I'm used to growing chaeto and never needed to worry about nitrates, but I no longer have a sump to grow it in. I might try taking a water sample to Pets Playhouse to see what all Nick is willing to test for me. /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/tongue.gif

    Water movement shouldn't be the issue. It's a 20g tank with 2 tunze 6055's and the output of a hob Deltec MCE600 skimmer. No sand (bare bottom)

    Jim - Haven't noticed "Balloons" on the ends...but there is probably enough flow that it wouldn't keep the air bubbles attached for long. Thought about trying to cut out the light a day or two but will wait and do that as a last resort.

    Any natural predators for this stuff? I have blue-leg hermits & astrae snails and they dont seem to make a dent...well at least not on the frag racks or corals themselves.
     
  9. Sponge Expert Reefkeeper Vendor

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    Cyano bacteria. Try to syphon out as much as possible. Since you don't know what your nitrate and phosphate levels are, I'd do 2 50% water changes over 3 days since it's only a 20g tank. If it's possible, I'd take the rock and corals out and swish them in the water you have syphoned out from the WC's to get as much of the cyano off them and out of the tank. Then I would do 3 days with lights out to ensure that it is completely gone. The corals and fish will be fine:=0) Hopefully you have stopped feeding so heavy/DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif

    Lastly, you can still use chaeto as a nutrient export method /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif You can float it in the tank but, an easier way is to use one/more of those large suction holders found in the bath department at WalMart. I think they are for holding soap, shampoo, etc. They have holes in them so there is constant water flow through them. Just every-so-often turn the chaeto for lighting needs.

    A queen conch snail will eat cyano but you would need an army of them right now/DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif The conch is good to have to keep the sandbed turned over but they can get rather large ...you would want to ensure your rock is stable and secure /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif Personally I use the super tonga nassarius snails for my sandbeds.
     
  10. nick

    nick Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Bring it up Lee I work all weekend. Can test most common things, trates, trites, ph, alk, calc, phos. Looks like a type of cyano to me. Expect to see you this weekend now. /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif
     

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