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Tank Build! 180 Gallon Acro Tank

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by jeremy, Jan 9, 2017.

  1. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

    West Des Moines, IA
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    That's not cooking....? Did you mean acid bath?
     
  2. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    Yup. My mistake. Acid bath. Now the rocks are soaking in rodi water for a couple days. Then it's cooking time.
     
  3. Dave Experienced Reefkeeper GIRS Member

    Des Moines Area
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    I would recommend running your rock in a tub of saltwater after the acid bath to be sure the phosphates are down to 0 before adding to display and use lanthanum chloride on them if not. I love pukani but my experience has been they are chok full of phosphates! Love your build btw.
     
  4. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    Sounds good. I will order some LC today. I am soaking the rock in rodi for a couple days. I will switch it over to saltwater tomorrow night and start cooking.
    How long do you think I will need to cook it with lanthum chloride?
    I only have 1 skimmer to use but 2 tubs of rock. Think I can keep get by just adding the LC daily?
    @Dave@Dave
     
  5. Dave Experienced Reefkeeper GIRS Member

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    Probably only a week or 2. I just put it in a tub with a powerhead and dose it manually. Test every couple of days. Do a water change every week if need be. Be sure to rinse in clean saltwater before using in display to get rid of any LC particulate.
     
  6. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    Sounds good thanks.
     
  7. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    @Dave@Dave where did you get your lanthum chloride?
    Anyone else use it? Where did you get it?
     
  8. Dave Experienced Reefkeeper GIRS Member

    Des Moines Area
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  9. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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  10. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member Vendor

    West Des Moines, IA
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    I thought it was a lot longer than that, like 4-6 weeks? IIRC the purpose of cooking is not only to leech out the junk, but also to establish bacterial colonies (i.e. cycle), and since it's the bacteria that is doing the "cooking" work for you, these take time to establish (especially after wiping them out with the acid bath)

    There used to be an old article on here about the cooking process but I think it got lost in the mix with the conversion, I still have the old database but I'm also sure it's written up somewhere else better and easier to find. It involved taking all the rocks out 2-3 times/week and dunking them in a sequence of buckets to loosen all the gunk off that the bacteria have liberated from the rock, plus lots of water changes, etc
     
  11. Dave Experienced Reefkeeper GIRS Member

    Des Moines Area
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    This is not cooking! The sole purpose is to eradicate phosphates. Cooking is a whole different purpose and usually takes months.
     
  12. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    Yes. Once I get the phosphates down in the barrels I will throw some live rock in with it and an ammonia source and see what happens. Last time I did that it was cycled in 2 weeks.
    I am just worried about the pukani leeching po4. I have a large skimmer and a L2 algae scrubber on the system it's going into. So hopefully no nuisance algae problem down the road.
     
  13. Dave Experienced Reefkeeper GIRS Member

    Des Moines Area
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    "I am just worried about the pukani leeching po4"

    A very valid concern but between the acid batch and lanthanum chloride, I think you will be fine. I "cooked" pukani in the traditional way Bud referenced (see link below) for 6 months and the phosphates were still off the charts. Added lanthanum chloride as I described above and they were at 0 in < 3 weeks....It is now my "go to" method to get phosphates in line quickly.

    "Cooking"
    How to "cook" your rock. - The Reef Tank
     
  14. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    Sounds good. Thanks.
     
  15. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    Qt sump done
     
  16. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    The coral QT it up and running. Starting the cycle today.
    All I need to do is hang the light over it and cycle and it will be ready.
    Now I need to do aquascape for the 180 and build light rack and it will be ready for SPS.
     

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  17. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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  18. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    Qt Done. Lights up. Cycle started.

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  19. jeremy Acro Addict

    Davenport, IA
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    Got all my sand. For the display. I have been treating the rock with lanthum chloride. Hope it's done next week.

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  20. Actuary Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Adel, IA
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    Very cool. I originally thought this was going to be a large frag tank. This is ginormous for a coral QT tank! How much coral are you going to be getting in at a time?!
     

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