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Elliot`s 220 reef LED build

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by erayk1, May 29, 2011.

  1. erayk1 Well-Known ReefKeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    So I decided a while back after seeing my one of my buddies tnks with LEDs, to build my own and swap out the 400w Halides.   I didn't do anything too fancy but I did my research so I wouldn't make any mistakes.  I started with getting the CREE LEDs, Royal Blue and Cool Whites at 1:1 ratio.  I was going for both color and growth with  this selection.  I decided to get 6 dim-able Meanwell drivers to run the 84 LEDs; 14 on each string.  I noticed a huge difference with the LEDs vs the halides.  All I can say is WOW!  Especially when just the blues are on, I tried taking pictures but I my camera was having nothing of it.  /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/w00t.gif  I will see if I can bug my buddy Andy to bring his camera over so I can show you all the sweet colors those lights pop out of the corals.  For now I am relying on timers and potentiometers, but I plan on getting a controller at some point here in the near future for programmable dimming, etc.The only part of the build that frustrated me was breaking at least 8 bits drilling the heat sinks. (I didn't have a drill press)  The rest of the build went almost without any flaws.  If you want more info or have questions/comments, feel free to ask!
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    All three mounted in my canopy:
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    Just the blues (camera couldn't get a good picture, new ones soon to come):
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    Enjoy!  /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default/emoticons/wow.gif
     
  2. Andy The Reef Guy

    Andy The Reef Guy Inactive User

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    Oh yeah I need to come over and take some pix for ya man!
     
  3. Bela

    Bela Inactive User

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    Looks good. I would consider enclosing them somehow, even if you don't get much splashing. I have read of people having issues of LEDs no lighting after only a few months from the "salty air". I have also read of a film (I assume salt) forming on the pucks.
     
  4. xroads Veteran Reefkeeper Vendor

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    Awesome

    If you dont mind me asking, what is your total cost into it?
     
  5. Actuary Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I'm planning on switching to LEDs when I move my SPS reef from a 125g to 180g. I currently use 2x 400w MHs over my 125g.. do you think 84 LEDs would be enough over a 180g SPS reef?
     
  6. FishBrain Expert Reefkeeper GIRS Member

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    Man great job! I'm with Bela I would put a piece of glass or something inbetween the leds and the water.
     
  7. Andy The Reef Guy

    Andy The Reef Guy Inactive User

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    I've read that you're suppose to use plexi glass as it doesn't absorb as much uv emission. Looks like people are just putting these things directly between the lights and the water, without cutting little holes for the led's themselves is that the way to do it? Anybody have experience with that?
     
  8. erayk1 Well-Known ReefKeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    Thanks everyone, it was a fun build (minus drilling all those little holes)
    Bella: Thanks! I also thought about putting a sheet of plexi under them, but I have no "salt spray" to be noticed, my halides never had anything on them before. But I understand the reason and I will probably do it anyways...
    xroads: I would say my final build cost was about $270 for each panel, minus my time of course.. /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif
    Actuary: If your running 3 of these panels over a 180, I personally think you would be just fine with sps. My tank is sps/lps dominant and everything seems to be happy, even the stuff on the bottom. The only this is, I wish I would have maybe one more row to run the length of the tank, just to get across that 2ft spread a little better.
     
  9. JB Veteran Reefkeeper

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    IMO, I don't think the plexiglass in going to help with much in a build like this. It may be more of an issue with a nano build where the LED's are relatively close to the water and there are no optics on the LEDs. If the fixtures are suspended 8 or so inches above the water and there are optics covering the LED's themselves, I can't see a tiny amount of salt spray having any impact on the fixtures at all.

    Nice build BTW... /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif
     
  10. erayk1 Well-Known ReefKeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    Thanks JB, the LEDs are sitting are sitting about 7 inches off the water. I have had no issues in the past with this tank and salt spray or splashing. So I think I will keep it how it is since I have the optics.
     
  11. adampottebaum

    adampottebaum Experienced Reefkeeper GIRS Member

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    Hey Elliot, are your fans getting blocked by the 1x6's? It looks like the fan sits right against the board. If so, that's something you might want to get fixed...
     
  12. erayk1 Well-Known ReefKeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    I noticed my placement of the fans only after I had them mounted on the heat sinks. They are just over an inch away from the 1x6's I believe. The heat sinks never feel warm to the touch, just nice and cool. Good catch though. /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/wink.gif
     
  13. marionreefer

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    WOW! That looks Great. I better start saving up
     
  14. Paleoreef103

    Paleoreef103 Inactive User

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    Looks awesome, but I would put some acrylic between the LEDs and the tank. If at all possible, isolate the LEDs from the water as much as possible. The evaporation can deposit salt on the fixtures and eventually corrode them. Ideally, you'll have fans venting below the barrier to help with gas exchange and to whisk away as much salty air as possible. Evil from nano-tuners/ PAR38 fame has told me that a lot of DIY fixtures life spans will be limited by this corrosion so try to protect from it as much as possible.
     
  15. PotRoast

    PotRoast Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    what are the dimensions of your tank? how did you determine how many LED's you needed? I am new to the topic but it seems to me you used fewer LED's than many who choose to go the DIY route.....

    I have a 240 which is 8' long. Considering doing my own LED's someday.....
     
  16. erayk1 Well-Known ReefKeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    I'm still undecided about putting a glass panel in there, I just really don't want to lose to much of the light because of a piece of glass....

    Paleoreef: 72x24x30 are my dimensions; it is a standard 220 from Perfecto. I did use fewer LEDs than most other people I have seen, but I was trying to stay within my budget at the time. I decided to run the max number in series that the drivers could handle (14) making 28 per panel. I figured I could always add more panels down the road. I know I could only benefit from more LEDs but the coral placement in my tank will be keep. So far, all the corals seem to be happy where they are at, we will see in a couple weeks how the growth is. I'm thinking positive here /DesktopModules/ActiveForums/themes/_default//emoticons/smile.gif If I had the money I would have done 36- 48 in each 2x2 section, but that gets pricey really quick.
     
  17. erayk1 Well-Known ReefKeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    ****One piece of advice for those of you getting optics for your LEDs; get the ones with the adhesive tape on the lenses or the adhesive rings you can find now for the lenses. It will save much time and headache as the optics don't like to stay on the chips with even the slightest bump...
     
  18. Andy The Reef Guy

    Andy The Reef Guy Inactive User

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    You shouldn't use glass, it highly reduces UV transmittance. Plexi will not. (from what I'm reading on RC)
     
  19. erayk1 Well-Known ReefKeeper Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    I meant plexi...
     
  20. adampottebaum

    adampottebaum Experienced Reefkeeper GIRS Member

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    Elliot, hate to sound like a Debby Downer here, but if you don't put something in there to protect against salt moisture, you're going to lose all of your lights. A piece of acrylic shouldn't block hardly any light, it's definitely a good investment. I had two different strings of LEDs in my nano short out real fast when there wasn't a piece of acrylic there. I've got a new LED strip in there with an acrylic cover and they've already lasted twice as long as the others.
    Anyways, it's your money and therefore you're call, I just don't want to have to say "I told you so" later...
     

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