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Looking to Buy 1st saltwater tank

Discussion in 'Buy/Sell/Trade' started by Ryan H, Dec 30, 2017.

  1. Ryan H

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    I've had freshwater fish for years would like to start saltwater.

    Anyone here have a complete setup ready for sale? Would like atleast a 40 gal tank.

    I just want to do a fish only tank with live rock no coral.

    Any help would be great thanks everyone.
     
  2. clown man Well-Known ReefKeeper GIRS Member

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    Where u located
     
  3. aussie Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    To be honest I would go with a 75 gal or bigger for your first tank .... the bigger tank is more forgiving than a smaller one.... also what fish are you thinking?
     
  4. mrelaz

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    I agree with @aussie@aussie. Go with a 75 or bigger.


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  5. blackx-runner Administrator Website Team Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    Agree, go as big as space and budget allow. Then just take things slow with establishing the tank.
     
  6. abower Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I have a 125 I am going to unload in a month once I transfer to cube. Has cherry and maple stand and canopy. You would be short a skimmer and sump. A 35 long with baffles would fit underneath the tank. Have a 48" 2 bulb or 4 bulb t5 that would light it well for fish only. Have return pump sized for tank. Pm me your phone # and I'll take pictures. 400 takes it
     
  7. Ryan H

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    I'm located over by Belle Plaine Iowa but work in Cedar Rapids. I was going to look at just starting with tangs. Open to any ideas I'm ok with going bigger I know a bigger tank helps with the water also.
     
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  8. D007 Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    well if your gonna go with tangs might as well just go straight to a 180 :)
     
  9. Alex Crittenden GIRS Member

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    Agreed, go big with tangs to give them lots of swimming room. Tangs can swim miles in a single day, so the bigger the better. Also, if you're planning on having anything that would be considered less aggressive than a tang you may want to put those in first. Starting with more territorial fish then working your way backwards probably isn't the greatest idea, I would do it the other way around, starting with more timid fish first, then the more territorial fish, like tangs, last.
     
  10. Ryan H

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    Ok thanks I've just always liked yellow tangs, powder blue, hippo or brown. What would be good starter fish besides damsels to make sure the tank is setup correctly to start with?
     
  11. abower Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Non. Wait until nitrate cycle is done and go. Usually 3 weeks. Otherwise you'll do mad water changes and risk a crash
     
  12. abower Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Put something with dead organics like a 'live rock' that is dead and hasnt been stripped of organics by bleaching. It will spike ammonia and nitrite faster
     
  13. Ryan H

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    Yes I was just going to do fish and live rock no coral.
     
  14. got2lb Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Do some research before diving in. Best thing you can do is take your time in the saltwater world. You can actually cycle your tank with raw shrimp from the grocery store.
     
  15. AdamLawrence Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I would be careful on what damsel you add as they can be a real pain in the a** just my two cents. Always QT your new arrivals will save you money in the long run.

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  16. aussie Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    Coral haven on Facebook has a video about starting up a tank, me personally I would go to Hy-Vee get a pair of uncooked shrimp from the frozen section put them in panty hose trust me you want to do that and put it in a filled tank it will kick off your cycle pretty good
     
  17. aussie Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    My first fish would be clowns and wait two weeks before your next..... do you have a qt tank to you don’t want to get ick in your main tank..... prob your last fish will be tangs and I would add them in at the same time
     
  18. Bud Loves Bacon Website Team Board of Directors Leadership Team GIRS Member

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    I have cycled tanks with ammonia dosing. Use the janitorial strength stuff from Ace Hardware Ace 1qt Ammonia (10183A) - Industrial Cleaners - Ace Hardware it is surfactant-free and stronger than most others. What you do is add enough such that your ammonia test above 1.0ppm but less than 4.0 ppm (the cycle will stall out above 4). I can't totally recall the dosage but if memory serves me correctly, in a 220g it was 1/4 cup = 1 ppm (it's very strong)

    Test before every dose, then wait 15m and test again to make sure it's over 1ppm. Repeat daily until you start to get measurable nitrates. You can test nitrites to monitor the cycle process but nitrites are not toxic in saltwater when below 100ppm so this is the only time you'll really ever need that test kit.

    Once you start to get nitrate readings, dose ammonia to 1ppm then test again in 24 hrs. If ammonia is zero and nitrites are zero and nitrates have risen, your nitrogen cycle is complete - i.e. it's complete when the tank can convert 1ppm ammonia fully to nitrate in 24 hours.

    This will establish a pretty decent bacterial colony. If all your rock is dry or pretty much dead, this IMO is the way to go.

    If you have mostly live rock that came from an existing tank, you really don't need to do anything special because the decomp from things like sponges dying when you take the rock out of the water combined with the existing bacterial colony on the rock will short-cut your cycle - you might not even see any ammonia or nitrite spikes.

    There's still a lot going on for 6-12 months in a saltwater tank with live rock and sand, that's the tank maturing time for saltwater in reality. In that time frame it's hit or miss for corals, but you are doing FOWLR it sounds like (Fish Only With Live Rock) so that's much less of an issue, however some fish might be affected by certain (generally not testable) chemical swings

    My favorite link: Got to #15 Mything the Point, Part Three: Conclusion - Reefkeeping.com
     
  19. cameron lake Well-Known ReefKeeper GIRS Member

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    I would recommend the first thing you buy is a ro di unit, Also look for the biggest tank you can afford bigger is better less swings of parameters in a bigger tank. And try to look for a reef ready tank or won that is already drilled or won you can drill hang on overflows are junk they crack or get clogged and overflow just a nightmare of a mess to clean up I have used cpr and eshopps hang on overflows and they both have failed on me. My last words of advise is patents is key in this hobby the more you rush the more likely you are to fail take it slow no rush and you should be off to a good start.
     
  20. AdamLawrence Well-Known ReefKeeper

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    I like the drilling of a tank and putting the overflow on that way you end up with more space its just my opinion. Another thing would be is go look at local reefers in your area and take their ideas and do it your way after that. Just rember the easier you make the more likely you will do it.!! Happy Reefing

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